feat(qwen3_8): Qwen3.8-27B FP8 quantization (real FP8 GEMM) - #1386
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Included review availability: Your plan provides up to 12 included reviews per hour; 11 remain after this review. 📝 SummarySummaryAdds end-to-end The FP8 path self-quantizes BF16 MLP, attention, and DeltaNet projection weights with scalar weight and activation scales. It loads calibrated activation scales from The FP8 context disables TensorRT dual-GEMM fusion to avoid a compiler code-generation defect. Existing Architecture impact
ValidationThe supplied objectives report FP8 tensor-core operands for all 416 quantized projection GEMMs. They also report a 29.5 GB bundle, improved throughput, and reduced memory usage versus the FP16 baseline. Test results and review-finding counts are unavailable. Review statusHUMAN REVIEW REQUIRED — No standards violation is established in the supplied evidence, but test coverage and complete FP8 configuration validation remain unresolved. WalkthroughQwen3.8 now supports self-quantized FP8 builds from BF16 checkpoints. Calibration covers MLP, attention, and DeltaNet projections. The model selects the matching calibrator, and engine building can disable TensorRT dual-GEMM fusion. ChangesQwen3.8 FP8 quantization
Priority: ➖ Normal Estimated code review effort: 3 (Moderate) | ~25 minutes Change: Feature Sequence Diagram(s)sequenceDiagram
participant Qwen38Model
participant calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8
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participant fp8_activation_scales_json
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participant TensorRT
Qwen38Model->>Qwen38Model: accept fp8 quantization
Qwen38Model->>calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8: select FP8 calibration
calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8->>safetensors_readers: read projection weights
calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8->>fp8_activation_scales_json: load activation scales
calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8-->>Qwen38Model: return quantization context
Qwen38Model->>build_engine: provide context
build_engine->>TensorRT: apply -peep:match_dual_gemm=off
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In `@families/qwen3_8/quantization.py`:
- Line 434: Update the docstring in the Qwen3_8 quantization code to remove the
cross-family reference to qwen’s _scalar() method, replacing it with local
wording that identifies the FP8 scalar formula without linking to another
family.
- Around line 503-509: The calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8 flow must reject incomplete MLP
FP8 coverage before loading weights: require finite, positive activation scales
for layer.{layer}.w_gate, w_up, and w_down across every config.num_hidden_layers
entry, and fail with the missing scale names. Do not treat missing scales as
skippable; preserve the existing missing-checkpoint-tensor behavior handled by
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| input_scale = activation_scales.get(name) | ||
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| hf_prefix = f"model.language_model.layers.{layer}.{hf_stem}" | ||
| weight_key = f"{hf_prefix}.weight" | ||
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rg -n -C 8 'w_gate|w_up|w_down|_load_mlp_weights|layer_types|mlp_only_layers' families/qwen3_8/engine_builder.py families/qwen3_8/graph_blocks.py
printf '%s\n' '--- activation scale artifact shape/content ---'
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import json
from pathlib import Path
p = Path('families/qwen3_8/fp8_activation_scales.json')
d = json.loads(p.read_text())
print('entries', len(d))
keys = sorted(d)
print('first', keys[:8])
print('last', keys[-8:])
layers = {}
for k in keys:
parts = k.split('.')
if len(parts) >= 3:
layers.setdefault(parts[1], []).append(parts[2])
print('layer_count', len(layers))
print('projection_sets', sorted({tuple(v) for v in layers.values()}))
print('layer_range', (min(map(int, layers)), max(map(int, layers))))
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rg -n -C 4 'calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8|FP8_SELF_QUANTIZED|activation_scales|missing|layer_types|mlp_only' families/qwen3_8/tests families/qwen3_8 README.md 2>/dev/null || trueRepository: NVIDIA/TensorRT-Model-Connect
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Reject incomplete FP8 MLP coverage.
If a checkpoint tensor exists but its activation scale is missing, calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8 skips that projection. The projection is absent from _Profile.scales, so _owned() returns false and Qwen38Model._load_mlp_weights loads it as an ordinary weight. The FP8 build can therefore succeed with partial MLP FP8 coverage.
Require the complete layer.{layer}.w_gate, w_up, and w_down set for every config.num_hidden_layers entry. Fail with missing scale names before loading weights. Validate every scale as finite and positive.
A missing checkpoint tensor does not use this fallback. _get_raw_tensor raises KeyError for a missing tensor; if the gate tensor is missing, _load_mlp_weights skips the MLP block.
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In `@families/qwen3_8/quantization.py` around lines 503 - 509, The
calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8 flow must reject incomplete MLP FP8 coverage before
loading weights: require finite, positive activation scales for
layer.{layer}.w_gate, w_up, and w_down across every config.num_hidden_layers
entry, and fail with the missing scale names. Do not treat missing scales as
skippable; preserve the existing missing-checkpoint-tensor behavior handled by
_get_raw_tensor and _load_mlp_weights.
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review. Visit https://docs.coderabbit.ai/cli?utm_source=ghpr
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…tion Two published Qwen3.8-27B-FP8-style checkpoints were evaluated and found architecturally unable to reach a real fused FP8 tensor-core GEMM: the official checkpoint's 2D 128x128 block-scale format has no matching kernel path in TensorRT's public API and dense-GEMM fusion, or tensorrt-edge-llm's CUTLASS plugin; a per-channel-weight + dynamic-per-token-activation checkpoint builds and runs correctly but TRT's dense-FC fusion pass does not recognize that scale scheme and silently falls back to dequantize-to-FP16 + plain FP16 GEMM. Instead, self-quantize the original, unquantized Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B BF16 checkpoint to the scalar-weight-scale + scalar-activation-scale FP8 scheme already proven to fuse (same scheme RadixArk/Qwen3.8-27B-NVFP4's FP8 attention/DeltaNet layers and families/qwen's existing FP8 support use). Weight quantization is a pure function of the weight tensor (scale = max(abs(weight)) / 448) and happens on the fly at build time, one projection at a time, so no new checkpoint needs to be published. Only the activation input_scale values require a real calibration forward pass; those were calibrated once offline and are committed as families/qwen3_8/fp8_activation_scales.json. Verified via IEngineInspector that all 192 quantized MLP GEMMs (64 layers x 3 projections) get the real FP8 tensor-core tactic, not a dequantize fallback. Decode/prefill throughput improves over the FP16 baseline on the same checkpoint. Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
Extend calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8() beyond MLP (gate/up/down) to also self-quantize attention (q/k/v/o_proj) and DeltaNet (in_proj_qkv, in_proj_z, out_proj) projections to the same scalar-scale FP8 scheme, matching the official Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8 checkpoint's own choice of which layers to quantize (same modules_to_not_convert scope: norms, lm_head, embeddings, and DeltaNet's decay/beta/gate parameters stay unquantized) -- only the numeric scheme differs, since that checkpoint's 2D 128x128 block-scale format is the one that cannot reach a real fused GEMM in this stack. q_proj is quantized as a whole tensor with a single scalar scale, then split into (w_q, w_gate_attn) post-quantization, mirroring how the NVFP4/FP8 checkpoint-reading path already splits an already-quantized q_proj tensor. The bundled fp8_activation_scales.json is regenerated from a fresh offline calibration run (hooks added on the additional attention/DeltaNet submodules; 416 total entries, up from 192). Verified via IEngineInspector: all 416 quantized weights (192 MLP + 224 attention/DeltaNet) get the real FP8 tensor-core GEMM tactic, not a dequantize fallback. Engine size drops from 36.7GB (MLP-only) to 29.5GB, now matching the official checkpoint's ~29GB. Real trtmc CLI build run measured: build peak CPU RSS 148GB, peak GPU mem 28.8GB; runtime CPU RSS ~30GB, GPU mem ~29GB. Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
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Background
Qwen3.8-27B currently has no real FP8 GEMM acceleration path. Two published FP8 checkpoints for this model were evaluated and found unable to reach a real fused FP8 tensor-core GEMM in this stack:
Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8checkpoint uses a 2D 128x128 block-scale format (DeepSeek-V3 style). No matching kernel path exists in TensorRT's public API, TensorRT's dense-GEMM fusion, ortensorrt-edge-llm's custom CUTLASS plugin.huginnfork/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8uses a per-channel weight scale + dynamic per-token activation scale. This builds and runs correctly (verified numerically), but TensorRT's dense-FC fusion pass only recognizes scalar-both or FP4E2M1-block-both scale schemes; this mixed scheme falls back to dequantize-to-FP16 + plain FP16 GEMM with no real acceleration (confirmed viaIEngineInspectoroperand-Datatypeinspection, not just tactic-name matching).Exit Criteria
gate_proj/up_proj/down_proj), attention (q/k/v/o_proj), and DeltaNet (in_proj_qkv/in_proj_z/out_proj) projections all get real FP8 tensor-core GEMM fusion, not a dequantize-to-FP16 fallback: matching the officialQwen/Qwen3.8-27B-FP8checkpoint's own choice of which layers to quantize.Implementation
Self-quantizes the original, unquantized
Qwen/Qwen3.8-27BBF16 checkpoint to FP8 at build time, using the same scalar-weight-scale + scalar-activation-scale scheme already proven to fuse in this stack (the scheme RadixArk's/nvidia's NVFP4 checkpoint's FP8 attention/DeltaNet layers, andfamilies/qwen's existing FP8 support, both use).scale = max(abs(weight)) / 448) is a pure function of the weight tensor and happens on the fly, one projection at a time, so peak memory stays bounded and no new checkpoint is published.input_scalegenuinely requires a calibration forward pass; this was run once offline (real BF16 execution viatransformers.AutoModelForCausalLM, forward hooks on all quantized submodules, max-abs over a representative prompt set) and is committed asfamilies/qwen3_8/fp8_activation_scales.json(416 floats: 192 MLP + 224 attention/DeltaNet).q_projis self-quantized as one whole tensor with a single scalar scale, then split post-quantization into(w_q, w_gate_attn): mirroring how the NVFP4/FP8 checkpoint-reading path already splits an already-quantizedq_projtensor the same way.calibrate_qwen3_8_fp8()inquantization.pyreuses the existing_FP8Format/_FP8WeightQ/DQ code verbatim.gate_proj+up_projsince they share the same input activation) only recognizes MXFP8/NVFP4 block-scale schemes for its scale operand, not this plain scalar-both FP8 scheme, and mis-lowers to MLIR that fails NVVM codegen ('arith.divf' op requires the same type for all operands and results).families/qwen3_8/model.py'sbuild()now routesquantization="fp8"tocalibrate_qwen3_8_fp8()instead of the earlier (removed) MXFP8-basedcalibrate_qwen3_8_fp8_dynamic()attempt, which achieved correct output but no real acceleration for the reason above.Change categories
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ruff check --config ruff.toml families/qwen3_8/quantization.py families/qwen3_8/engine_builder.py families/qwen3_8/model.py: all checks passed.trtmc build <local Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B BF16 snapshot> -o model.bundle --quantization fp8 --precision fp16 --verbose), not a hand-rolled test script: succeeds, producing a 29.5GB bundle (engine.plansection = 27.45 GiB).load_weights) peaks around 92GB CPU RSS; the TensorRTbuild_enginephase peaks at 148GB CPU RSS and 28.8GB GPU memory (TensorRT's own reported peak: "GPU 28104 MiB"). Total wall time 423s with--verbose.engine.planin a separate process): CPU RSS ~30GB, GPU memory ~29GB after generation.IEngineInspector.get_engine_information(trt.LayerInformationFormat.JSON), checking the actualDatatypefield on each GEMM layer's inputs/constants (not tactic-name substring matching): all 416 quantized weights (192 MLP + 224 attention/DeltaNet: 64 layers x 3 MLP projections, 16 full-attention layers x 5 projections incl. the splitq_proj, 48 linear-attention layers x 3 DeltaNet projections) show the real FP8 tensor-core tactic withFP8operand dtype, not aHalf/Floatdequantize fallback. The remaining non-FP8 GEMMs are DeltaNet's inherently-unquantized decay/beta/gate math (never targeted for quantization), not a fallback of any quantized layer.Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
Qwen/Qwen3.8-27B(public, unquantized BF16), local snapshot used for testing.Not Run / Remaining Gaps
--precision fp32testing for this quantization path (only fp16 and bf16 were validated).build_routeworkaround in this PR unblocks the feature but does not fix the root cause.Contributor Self-Review
Notes For Future Readers
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build_route/-peep:match_dual_gemmmechanism used here is a general-purpose escape hatch for other whitelisted TensorRT compiler knobs, not FP8-specific: worth keeping in mind if similar fusion-pass issues comeup for other quantization schemes in the future.
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quantization="fp8"request value; existingquantization="nvfp4"/Nonebehavior is untouched.